"Cash for caning?": Why is the decision difficult?

[eric_carwardine]

  PHYSICIANS did WHAT???? did I just read that correctly? WE were taught and TAUGHT, when doing intimate examinations NEVER touch the clitoris!

In 2001 Australia's national broadcaster aired a program titled "Coffee, Sex, and Other Addictions". It included a section on the historical role of physicians in providing sexual relief for women. A full transcript is at -

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/relig/spirit/stories/s269307.htm

Here's an extract:

Rachael Kohn: Now of course there was another problem that compounded all of this and that was that if women had sexually exciting thoughts and were in a state of high expectation, and did not actually have sex, they would become hysterical. Now there were ways of dealing with this I understand, and we’ve got two of them here that you’ve brought with you. They look formidable and they’re electric; can you talk about this vibrators.

Ian Bersten: Well the oldest one here is in a wooden box; it has two electric wires coming out to electrodes which were used internally on the woman. It’s connected to an electric light bulb with a very old screw-in fitting, and it’s got a cube which can be moved in and out to raise or lower the number of vibrations; and it was obviously very widely used, it’s very professionally presented.

I’ve also got an electric vibrator which dates to 1918, they were certainly invented from 1883 and this particular category of manufactured goods in America was the most highly sold category in 1904. It outsold coffee percolators, toasters, fans, anything you want to name, this was the most highly sold category in the whole of the USA. And that came from the fact that when women suffered from hysteria, which was defined in those days as a nervous disease caused through lack of sexual satisfaction, they went to their doctor who gave them relief on the couch.

Rachael Kohn: Oh, so these doctor visits were very interesting, probably very frequent.

Ian Bersten: Very frequent. And of course the doctors didn’t like them because it actually took an hour sometimes, and so when the electric vibrator came along, they used them on the women. And of course the women took the cure into their own hands after a while and so that particular part of the doctor’s business died.

Rachael Kohn: Into their own hands...

Ewik

[eric_carwardine]

I once hauled a young medic off by his earlobe, who committed that ofence [touching clitoris] (by accident albeit but I bet he never made SAME mistake again!)    Am I a prude?? or just under historically educated!!

In my opinion, Zippy, you are neither prudish nor under-educated. Social sanctions, augmented by peer pressure, is probably closer to the mark. For almost the entire human history, getting pregnant was the most dangerous thing a woman could do. Amazingly, pregnancy was even regarded as a disease! The human foetus was, to some, the largest cancer known - the female's response to a foreign substance, the male's sperm. This superstition and bigotry were compounded by society's refusal to allow women access to male doctors. It's impossible to know how many women perished in childbirth through being denied competent medical assistance.

Prejudice even finds an ally in our language. The term midwife means, literally, with the wife. There is no implied gender in the term. And yet how many people are misled into thinking the role must be filled by a woman?

Ewik

[zippy 1 duh]

WOW the brain cells have to work now ERIC ---- and thank you sincerely for thinking (quite rightly    an educated rumbles around in my skull and has USEFUL uses --sometimes ! )  No when "REBORN" I take in the religious sense or IN MY CASE , getting into THIS "Brave NEW WORLD" of CP/ spanking and learning new things each day !     NO I have never come across 2 belly buttons  ( umbilicus  from umbilical cord) ----- I HAVE however come across a double placenta which had a umbilical cord leading fron EACH and conjoining into 1 very thick cord-----now said cord has 3 vessels in it 1) maternal blood, 2) the fetal (feotal) artery 3) venous vessel . In this cord it had 6 vessels, so it was summised that in fact there was origanally a twin conception, the merging of the cords, would, if had carried on to grow into a feotus ,have possibly been conjoined (siamese ) Twins of some sort! As it was this little one was perfectly fit and healthy, but did have some scar tissue attached to pelvis ,which is presumably where its twin or a "parasitic growth" was but had died at an early stage!

i am sure the gentlemen appreciate the pains associated with love ladies.

       With great respect Headmistress , it is my experience that men are ONLY truelly aware of the pains of their "part" in the procreation stakes, when being VICE LIKE GRIPPED by their partner in labour (they didnt call it LABOUR for nothing    ) and the lady yelling "YOU bastard , your never coming near me AGAIN!!"  THIS sentence Iv heard SO OFTEN its almost unbelievable and I couldnt put a figure on it!!   . The felah then looks pitifully at you as if to say "UH! Does she mean that!" with a look of HORROR on his face!!!!   YES I was kind and said "Tis OK when babies here she will forget, dont worry chum, youll get your "oats " again    " and grin at them!!!!     that and some many amuzing anecdotes could fill an entire web site,to say nothing of others in the proffessions experiences  ( MATRON!! Please agree Im geting THAT look, I can feel it!  )


    As for the transcript Eric ---- shall read THAT with some amusement----electric!! geegads!!  THANK THE LORD for Ann Summers and other such outlets which sell safer and less embarrassing items now !!!!!         oops!

    I have often seen extra nipples tho Eric on males and Females!! As to MAle midwives HUM , 1 of the 1st things a pregnant lady does when greeted by you/me when was working in midwifery, was a quick glance at the wedding ring finger  "Oh yoour married!"  "Um YES (for my sins!) I am !" next question "HAVE YOU got children?"   when able to answer "YES, 2,3 as they came along ! so yep have been where you are so try and relax !"  THIS always proved to be a total ice breaker and form a relationship of TRUST between you and your patients (plural because of the baby !)---------  I noticed when male midwifery students were starting, THIS was something many women did not take to very readily, because even single and no pregnacy midwives did at LEAST have the awkward hormonal changes and monthly pains to identify with!!!  It was somehow totally acceptable to have a male obstetician medic-------- but they only got involved when an emergency outside of a midwives scope came into the equation!  Midwives being "Practioners in own right".   Im not in a position to say about NOW as male midwifes were just starting when my career had to end due to disability and surgical cock up!   BUT I have friends who still feel many (not all) of their male counterparts are in fact "Fustrated, unable to qualify ,as Doctors, and the latter  was their 1st preference !"  but I cant say that from personal experience-----many of the male student midwives I asked "WHY do you want to be a midwife?" said "Because we are allowe to now, equal rights and all that!"  which TO ME, was NOT a satisfactory answer! THO now Im sure they are much more readily accepted by women.

[zippy 1 duh]

Things have changed since this subject brought up .............. not all tops are purely about cash. Cash is needed to renew implements.Some can have no other Cp (thro choice) as will not dare go events to meet folk .So, if a Top is caring, but needs time and implements of best. Why a problem ?
Simple logistics . Whose to say that Top/bottom relationship is not worth paying for if a (pardon addies puns) "Seeks lasting relationship, and friendship",usuallyposted by males and females and rarely answered !
So why not engage a Top who does not rip off in payment? Do homework and be CP wise, at least fulfilled. Go to events and who knows who you may meet    !   NO I dont want a "relationship with anyone (of sexual kind) but do need CP needs .
And no is not always cold and calculating ... care for 1 human being to another does exist , regardless of payment .Ok I baulk at some charges read of.But all have a place ............

[Bottom of the Class]

If you want to have a CP/discipline session with a professional domme then you expect to pay a 'professional fee'. This is usually cash. You pay for a service which you have asked for, you cannot expect people to work for nothing, and of course implements do wear out or break so have to be replaced.

Most dommes charge around £100 per session to include pre and post session discussion and a hot drink. Of course any serious client does his/her homework before booking an appointment and this is usually done by making contact by telephone or email.

Most sessions will last an average of one hour but to include the interviews and have a drink in an unrushed atmosphere then most dommes usually take two hours.

I have noted, on another thread that MR intends to increase her professional fees from April and I would like to say that in respect of this lady her new chaarges are extremely good value as she offers pre and post session reviews and drinks in a pleasnt domestic setting.

No one does owt for nowt these days.